Tom Chantry’s Jailhouse Talk With Recently Ordained ARBCA Pastor Dabney Olguin

By | August 9, 2019
I would like to thank a couple of individuals who wish to remain anonymous for supplying me with much of the information found in this article.


Dabney Olguin is mentioned in the Karen/Tom Chantry jailhouse call of my a Youtube video I published yesterday. You will find the remark at the 2:45 mark here.


The Chantrys are unhappy with Dale Smith regarding what happened with Tom’s protege, Dabney Olguin.
Background: Tom is the mentor of Dabney Olguin.
I have taken a clip of a speech Dabney Olguin gave at his graduation ceremony from Westminster Seminary, Escondido in 2016. At the end of his speech, he said, “I want to thank my pastor Tom Chantry, who is an alumni, for his example of faithful service to Christ and His kingdom and his support and encouragement and tutelage of me for the past close to six years now.”

You may watch the entire video here.
Chantry attended Dabney Olguin’s graduation in May 2016 and then preached at Christ Reformed Baptist Church, Vista, CA while there, specifically because Olguin attended Renihan and Walters church while attending Westminster Seminary from 2013-16.


Below is an audio clip of the first minute from Chantry’s speech.


Allegedly, after Seminary, Dabney was an intern at  Grace Reformed Baptist Church of Rockford IL and under examination for eldership.  Early in 2018, there was a congregational vote to approve Dabney for eldership. Dabney failed to receive sufficient votes to be confirmed.
The blame for this failure of approving Tom’s prized student is centered on Dale Smith for not openly endorsing Dabney to the congregation.  Regardless, the church that sent Olguin to Westminster Seminary and received him back did not support his eldership. Odd. Except in light of the mentorship and connection to Tom Chantry.
Recently, Dabney has found a home with Fred Pugh.  Apparently, Dale Smith failed the loyalty test so Fred Pugh, current loyal ARBCA Coordinator, and member of the ARBCA leadership cabal, gladly ordained Tom’s protege.  And guess who happily preached at the ordination of Tom’s prized student? None other than the esteemed James Renihan!
Below is a clip from the first minute of Renihan’s speech.


Curious how these ARBCA boys all hang together, isn’t it? It’s either hang together or hang separately.
So without further delay, let’s get to another heartwarming chat from the narcissistic pedophile, Tom Chantry.

Jailhouse Phone Call Between Dabney Olguin and Tom Chantry 5-24-2019 by Todd Wilhelm on Scribd

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An odd youtube video put up a week ago Saturday:

More than an hour of talking about info he’s apparently gleaned from this blog and others, while chiding said blogs for all the “commentary/accusations/calls to repentance”, which he finds oh so unhelpful.

It’s sort of: We must be wary of these sites, so I read them for you and have filtered out all their opinions and here’s my curated presentation of what you should know…

Then his lecture/advice “to the internet bloggers” starts at 1:03:25

He makes a point of not being in ARBCA (actually he’s with the tiny state group GACB, Georgia Association of Confessional Baptists that includes every Georgia ARBCA church and some non-ARBCA Reformed/Baptist churches)

Samuel Conner

I didn’t get a bad “vibe” off the “admonition” to the ‘bloggers. He asked for a “central repository” for all the evidence for his own convenience (and presumably the convenience of other RB ministers who are concerned about this).

Maybe I’m not sensitive enough, but I didn’t get the sense that he thought that the commentary on the documents (that he doesn’t want to wade through) was objectively wrong.

The ‘bloggers are doing citizen journalism, and I suspect that he recognizes that. He did not charge the ‘bloggers with making false statements (while ARBCA has charged that), while he did identify certain ARBCA statements as “not true.”

The big thing I got out of this is that RB ministers outside of ARBCA are starting to recognize that “something is rotten”. He even predicted that civil lawsuits will follow.

Hard to believe that his recommendations for independent/3rd party investigation will be embraced. The association may continue to shrink until the people who remain are all “OK” with what has been done in their name.

Samuel Conner

Another interesting detail: IIRC he even expressed the view that some ARBCA individuals (aside from TJC) had committed crimes. This remark was toward the end when he was wrapping up his assessment and he didn’t name names at that point, but given his repeated remarks that the police should have been contacted as soon as the nature of the allegations was clear (ie, back in December 2000 during the “informal council”, or even before that on the basis of the letters the victims had written), I’m sure that this statement had in view mandatory reporting laws and at the very least the original “informal council” members (whom he did name earlier in the commentary).

He mentioned that he has friends in ARBCA and I’m guessing that he is urging them to advocate for the 3rd party investigation. The gyre of this thing seems likely to widen.

It would have been nice for an explicit acknowledgment that it’s largely because of the ‘bloggers that this thing has come as fully into public view as it has. But I take the thing in whole as a thumping rebuke of ARBCA.

I Was There Also

I agree whole heartedly with I Would Know as I am also one of the victims of this case. Kevin and Liz, YOU are the slanderers. Janna and Todd have given ample evidence and facts of the corrupt collusion and cover ups for Tom by the leaders and pastors of ARBCA for the last several years. You sit behind bible versus and phrases to throw against them to support your fruitless claims, yet have no hard evidence or facts to back up any sort of “slander” they have “committed”.

YOU and the other miserable has beens have slandered. You are also complicit in this continuous abuse of the victims and families by supporting men like Dabney who follows like a blind pet under Tom’s influence. Did you not listen to the recordings? Tom never said he loves Dabney. Isn’t that telling enough? Tom has no love for Dabney or his wife or his children or anyone else for that matter but himself. He will continue to lie and tell everyone how he’s not guilty. He’s told it to his family and to all the men and women of ARBCA who still believe him, he’s told it in court any chance he’s had to speak and he continues to do it in prison.

The truth ALWAYS comes out. And the truth showed that he IS guilty by the EVIDENCE brought forth in court. And the men that helped cover for him and still blindly think it’s over should be shaking in their boots. God has their number and will have vengeance on those who helped Tom along the way and continue to support him, INCLUDING men like Dabney, yourselves and anyone else in the back who follow like a blind sheep.

What Tom did to us will never be over. We may never heal and be the same because we were robbed of any normalcy growing up after he abused us. And we had to relive that trauma in court and it was the most excruciating and scary experience for all of us. But the evidence that finally was being exposed forthcoming to this trial was all because of these “slanderous bloggers”.

I Was There Also


They helped us beyond what we ever could have imagined and for you to sit and tell them and us victims that we are wicked and sinful for exposing men who continue to believe a CHILD MOLESTER AND ABUSER, YOU are the wicked ones. YOU shall have to answer to God and YOU will have to repent.


“Did you not listen to the recordings? Tom never said he loves Dabney. Isn’t that telling enough? Tom has no love for Dabney or his wife or his children or anyone else for that matter but himself.” Good Catch!

Not only did Tom not reciprocate in the farewell to Dabney, he also did not reciprocate in the warm hello his wife offered in their jail phone call, so she immediately turned that conversation to a theologically oriented one so that he could participate.

I Was There Also

Knowing Tom personally and his behavior I’m not surprised in the least he treats his wife as a whipping post. What I’m surprised by is that people still believe in his innocence after all the evidence, after all the testimonies and after all the facts brought out in court. I know it shouldn’t surprise me but I can’t help but be blown away every time I read or see support of that monster. And it’s especially baffling that people we used to think of as close friends or family decided to side with the devil and call us liars. These folks don’t care about truth. They care about their pompous, arrogant, unloving agenda and to make their members bow down to them and live in constant fear and anguish.


I have this same type set of family and friends. It is the ultimate betrayal, to prefer others to one’s own flesh and blood over the course of a lifetime.

I Would Know

I’ll say this to Kevin, and any one else in the back who thinks that Todd and Jana’s work is a source of gossip – they are doing quite the contrary. They have shed a bright glaring light not just on Tom and ARBCA, but anyone webbed in who are still arrogantly in support of Tom – a man who ABUSED and MOLESTED fearful and helpless children.
The victims individually suffered years of turmoil, depression, self-harm and even contemplated suicide at times before and during the trial processes. Who in faith supports someone who suffers so? Especially someone suffering this abuse at the hands of a self-proclaimed “man of God”?
I’m saying this boldly because I am one of the individuals who was at the other hand of this abuse. My family and the other families involved can’t even describe the decades of years that Tom tarnished and stripped away many years of “normalcy” within each of our lives.
Todd and Jana have worked tirelessly bringing TRUTH to this entire situation. This isn’t slander, this isn’t gossip. Of course that is at the discretion of every reader, but they are putting their own reputations on the line in defense of the defenseless. No one in ARBCA, especially those who are still active in the association has showed a sliver of that. They have not reached out in support of the victims and the families involved still to this day. They have not bothered to hear our end of the details of the case. Instead it has been continuous silence, turning a blind eye, and this has deliberately shown their true colors – they are not men of God. If they were, they would rebuke Tom outright and would show compassion and forgiveness to those affected. Instead, they voice their support of “love and prayers” to a wretched and unrepentant evil man who believes he is the victim. I have ZERO remorse for ANYONE who supports Chantry and his flippant lies. I have ZERO respect for ANYONE, Christian or not, who blindly supports anyone who harms children.

I Would Know

After reviewing my comment, I meant to write that those who are still active in ARBCA would show compassion and ASK for forgiveness to the victims and families affected, which they have not.
Those of you who are lazily throwing scripture behind your vapid comments stating Todd’s “motives” are not pure – wasn’t it Jesus who said, “But whoever shall offend one of these little ones who believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”?
This also relevant to those who are in continuous support of Tom. Especially those who are behind a pulpit presently. THOSE are the individuals who will be answering to God. Shame on THOSE individuals.

Thanks for the support, I really appreciate it. I’m very sorry about what you have to put up from with
these ARBCA creeps.

Fortunately, the real world considers them losers.

Thanks. Janna L. Chan (blog team member)

I Would Know

Of course! It’s the least I can do, especially because you and Todd do not fear these cowardly men and have held strong to presenting *actual* facts and haven’t been unwavering in any situation. I appreciate you both greatly.
I know I’m wasting my breath even making a comment towards any of these defunct and mindless lemmings who carelessly devoid themselves of any thought to grasp the truth, but if there are any readers who are still seeking the truth – take it from my previous comments. I would know. I was there from the beginning two decades ago and am still here, and will always to stand up for what is righteous and true, for myself and the other victims, or any victims involved in any sort of church abuse. This is situation that is never “over”. I’m not afraid of men who are still complacently residing in support of a demon on earth or who throw lackluster, boring and laughable threats at you, Todd or any of us involved. That is their bed to make and lay in, and I doubt God will be showing much grace on that end.

Thanks, I erased my earlier reply to your comment because it implied that there were never good people in your childhood, and that’s not what I intended to suggest.

I’m emotionally overwhelmed by the support of you and the other victim who has commented. I will respond more later.


Janna L. Chan (blog team member)


Shame on you for this blog and posts. There is absolutely no need for this. All you are doing is spreading gossip and sucking people in for the next juicy tidbits. The Bible speaks of gossip and bridling the tongue. I encourage you to examine your motives and repent of your sin. You may be able to get away with this now, but ultimately everything you do and your not so pure motives on here will be revealed to all and judged by God in the end.

I approved your comment even though it doesn’t comply with the comment guidelines, Liz.

What do you think Todd’s motive is? He spends a lots of money trying to protect child sexual abuse victims from pastors, who are really just thugs protecting pedophiles and other disgusting criminals.

I’m betting you’re married to one of these “pastors.” 😉

Have a nice day!

Janna L. Chan (blog team member)

Headless Unicorn Guy

I have long suspected that these pastors with pet pedos are closet pedos themselves but too afraid to Do the Deed themselves. So they Do the Deed vicariously, by “counseling” their pet pedos (getting all the Juicy Details).

And for “protecting pedos”, there may be some blackmail involved.
That or Saying one to another
“Perv unto Perv o’er the world is Brother”.

I admit this theory is derived from the prison psychiatrist character in South Park’s “Children of the Corn” parody episode, but the parallels are obvious.

Mr. Jesperson

Matt. 23:25 ““Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!

“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’”

Douglas Belardi

amen and amen

Douglas Belardi

Under the “leadership” of the current arbca coordinator


Todd, you have completely jumped the shark with this post. Whats the point? Trying to defame the reputation of a young pastor? And without knowing one single thing about him? This is disgusting and sinful. You should be ashamed of yourself and your clueless followers. Please issue an apology and remove this post.

Obviously no one, especially a young seminary student, knew of Chantrys past. Obviously, from the call log, Dabney was just being nice and supportive and barely said a word.

I know Dabney and he is a bright young man and loves the Lord. You have absolutely no clue about him or his family or his life. You are just insinuating things and gossiping.

The chantry issue is over. Move on with your life and stop gossiping and trying to trash a mans life who had nothing to do with tom chantrys sins and crimes.


So, to use your terminology, “What’s the point” of supporting a violent child molester who used his “religion” in a sick and twisted way to terrorize his victims? Has Dabney “supported” Tom Chantry’s victims in any way whatsoever? Has he met with them to hear their stories; did he attend the trials to hear their first hand accounts, or is he just taking Chantry’s word for what happened? It’s exactly because of folks like Dabney, who continue their “support” for monsters like Chantry, that they continue to grow and are allowed to continue their acts of terror. Remember Edmund Burke’s famous quote : “All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.”
When you fail to call out abuse, you become part of the problem. Ponder on that for a moment.

As Todd said, it’s also a matter of discernment. How can you spend six years under someone’s tutelage and not have seen anything that gives you pause? People need to stop being blinded by their loyalties and open their eyes. Only then will victims truly ever be heard.

Douglas Belardi

the “naysayers” are delusional
Todd and Janna have both presented incontrovertible EVIDENCE of Chantry’s guilt and ARBA’s complicity at every level – thank you for your dedicated and invaluable work

Sadly, in as much as I can tell, with the exception of one couple, ALL of the people I knew from my time at HBC, Mansfield, TX are still blindly following the “blind” leadership into the ditch

I agree completely with I WOULD KNOW – I too have ZER0 respect foe ANYONE still associated with ARBCA

ARBCA is a cult, little better than Jim Jones’ cult and most who are left constantly imbibe of the damning kool-aid concoction disseminated week after week after week

ARBCA and irBS cannot cease to exist soon enough

Thanks for the compliment regard evidence and credibility, Doug. I feel comfortable saying that Todd and I both want the people who read this blog to think for themselves.

That mindset is likely what drives ARBCA leaders crazy. 😉

Thanks. Janna L. Chan (blog team member)

The point of all Todd’s posts is presenting evidence and then letting people think for themselves.

Janna L. Chan (blog team member)


Janna wake up. This post has absolutely no evidence of anything. Its pure gossip. And the fact that you cant see that is evidence that you are just as clueless as todd. Get a life.

Try reading the post, Kevin . It references a jailhouse recording that you can even listen to in its entirety.

My life would be easier if little boys like you, pretending to be men, didn’t directly or indirectly enable pedophilia and then imply that victims are ungodly.

You may see Dabney Olguin as some glorious seminary student/pastor. To me and the rest of the sane world, he’s just a cowardly loser who is enabling a serial pedophile.

The same sentiment goes for you.

Why would I care what you think of me, Kevin? Go start your own blog and tell little Dabney to defend himself.

Janna L. Chan (blog team member)


THAT is EXACLTY what organized religion does NOT want us doing.

I have actually had good experiences with organized religion, including many Christian churches. I’ll leave it at that.

Thanks. Janna L. Chan (blog team member)

Headless Unicorn Guy

Just like over at Wartburg Watch and Spiritual Sounding Board, whenever someone like Tom Chantry gets spotlighted on the blog, all these Defenders of the Faith (who’ve never commented before) come out of the woodwork, fangs out and spouting Christianese against the Blasphemy of their real LORD.


Wow! I’ll say it a little faster than slooowpoke Dabney. Chantry thinks he has the legal system all figured out and informing his protege of same. He’s so full of crap and has no idea what he’s talking about. Excuses, excuses, whine, whine, whine. It’s all about “woe is me.” Pathetic.

Thank you, Todd, for allowing all of us a glimpse into the mind of a true sociopath.

Headless Unicorn Guy

Wow! I’ll say it a little faster than slooowpoke Dabney. Chantry thinks he has the legal system all figured out and informing his protege of same.

Prisons are full of The Smartest Men In The World who had The Legal System All Figured Out.

And media are full of their fawning proteges.

Mr. Jesperson
Headless Unicorn Guy

Thank you, Todd, for allowing all of us a glimpse into the mind of a true sociopath.

I’ve had too many close-up “glimpses into the mind of a true sociopath” already. I think I’ll beg off on another one.